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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://rooreynolds.com/2008/05/28/welcome-to-the-new-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-542781</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you out-sincerity the irony of instantaneous commercialization? By not caring about it. That&#039;s what the New Sincerity is about: Throwing off the oppressive influence of constantly having to live our lives in self conscious reaction to how we are perceived by others, including industry and the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you out-sincerity the irony of instantaneous commercialization? By not caring about it. That&#8217;s what the New Sincerity is about: Throwing off the oppressive influence of constantly having to live our lives in self conscious reaction to how we are perceived by others, including industry and the media.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://rooreynolds.com/2008/05/28/welcome-to-the-new-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-416029</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Sincerity has been preemptively re-ironized by hyper-capitalism. Google search &quot;New Sincerity&quot; and look to the right. You&#039;ll get this:

   1.
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How do you out-sincerity the irony of instantaneous commercialization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Sincerity has been preemptively re-ironized by hyper-capitalism. Google search &#8220;New Sincerity&#8221; and look to the right. You&#8217;ll get this:</p>
<p>   1.<br />
      New Sincerity Cheap<br />
      Best Value on New Sincerity.<br />
      Find NexTag Sellers&#8217; Lowest Price!<br />
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<p>How do you out-sincerity the irony of instantaneous commercialization?</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://rooreynolds.com/2008/05/28/welcome-to-the-new-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-48153</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having watched the young woman and her dancing dog on &lt;i&gt;Britain&#039;s Got Talent&lt;/i&gt; via the YouTubes, I can get past irony very easily.

I understand  Kirby&#039;s point: irony is angular, it needs clear demarcations and pivots and distance, and saturation or swaddling in cultural &#039;stuff&#039; fills up the space that would normally exist to let one step back, demarcate, and adopt an ironic posture. 

(I&#039;m reminded of Wordsworth&#039;s preface to &lt;i&gt;Lyrical Ballads&lt;/i&gt;, and the whole lyrical turn of the late 1700s that followed an era of cool couplet satire. It&#039;s online and worth reading.)

But there&#039;s a slender line between looking at the world with child-eyed wonder and coming across as puerile. To me, Ze Frank crossed that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having watched the young woman and her dancing dog on <i>Britain&#8217;s Got Talent</i> via the YouTubes, I can get past irony very easily.</p>
<p>I understand  Kirby&#8217;s point: irony is angular, it needs clear demarcations and pivots and distance, and saturation or swaddling in cultural &#8216;stuff&#8217; fills up the space that would normally exist to let one step back, demarcate, and adopt an ironic posture. </p>
<p>(I&#8217;m reminded of Wordsworth&#8217;s preface to <i>Lyrical Ballads</i>, and the whole lyrical turn of the late 1700s that followed an era of cool couplet satire. It&#8217;s online and worth reading.)</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a slender line between looking at the world with child-eyed wonder and coming across as puerile. To me, Ze Frank crossed that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Haglund</title>
		<link>http://rooreynolds.com/2008/05/28/welcome-to-the-new-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-48122</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael Haglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this what geeks in all times have done? Focus on what you love, not caring what others think. Isn&#039;t the irony of the ironic generation based in a fear of showing what you really like - &quot;what would people think?&quot; - better pretend I&#039;m not interested, really... 

New Sincerity may be a fancy name for: it is now (more) OK (than ever) to be a geek, to be special, to be interested in something odd, niche, long tail. Mass culture has less of a grip, but I bet there are still kids and grown ups getting bullied for not being average and bland.

Great blog Roo. Will steal from and quote you when I blog - in Swedish so you can&#039;t see how much :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this what geeks in all times have done? Focus on what you love, not caring what others think. Isn&#8217;t the irony of the ironic generation based in a fear of showing what you really like &#8211; &#8220;what would people think?&#8221; &#8211; better pretend I&#8217;m not interested, really&#8230; </p>
<p>New Sincerity may be a fancy name for: it is now (more) OK (than ever) to be a geek, to be special, to be interested in something odd, niche, long tail. Mass culture has less of a grip, but I bet there are still kids and grown ups getting bullied for not being average and bland.</p>
<p>Great blog Roo. Will steal from and quote you when I blog &#8211; in Swedish so you can&#8217;t see how much :-D</p>
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		<title>By: roo</title>
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		<dc:creator>roo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darren: can&#039;t old stuff can be appreciated ironically or sincerely, just like new stuff? It&#039;s down to your interpretation rather  than the intent, I think.

@Alice: Jamaica jokes are a subject for a whole other blog post, but if you don&#039;t believe that they&#039;re awesome then you&#039;ve not heard a good one yet. New site to prove that particular point coming very soon. [&lt;strong&gt;Update&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://shewentofherownaccord.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shewentofherownaccord.com&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Darren: can&#8217;t old stuff can be appreciated ironically or sincerely, just like new stuff? It&#8217;s down to your interpretation rather  than the intent, I think.</p>
<p>@Alice: Jamaica jokes are a subject for a whole other blog post, but if you don&#8217;t believe that they&#8217;re awesome then you&#8217;ve not heard a good one yet. New site to prove that particular point coming very soon. [<strong>Update</strong>: <a href="http://shewentofherownaccord.com/" rel="nofollow">shewentofherownaccord.com</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do Jamaica jokes fit into this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do Jamaica jokes fit into this?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where abouts in irony do you think retro fits in, if at all?  I&#039;m in too minds as to whether to classify retro items as ironic.  Things influenced by the past don&#039;t seem like they are, but modern copies of old artifacts feel like they might be.

I was wondering if that might cause a problem for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where abouts in irony do you think retro fits in, if at all?  I&#8217;m in too minds as to whether to classify retro items as ironic.  Things influenced by the past don&#8217;t seem like they are, but modern copies of old artifacts feel like they might be.</p>
<p>I was wondering if that might cause a problem for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Roo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wise and perceptive as always, Kim. 

Random example of current culture plucked from the air: I thought Eagle vs Shark was quite New Sincerity in it&#039;s uncomplicated exuberance. Much more so than Napoleon Dynamite perhaps, which seems to have some of the same qualities but was originally spoiled for me by being massively marketed by MTV. I suppose that shouldn&#039;t matter, but regardless of promotion or artistic intent there&#039;s still some soul in Eagle vs Shark that&#039;s lacking in Napoleon Dynamite.

I&#039;m struggling to know at what level I&#039;m appreciating most things, and I&#039;m sure I will continue to. My plan is not to overanalze anything though, and just enjoy things for what they are. If the New Sincerity cuts through the old irony, it can&#039;t be a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wise and perceptive as always, Kim. </p>
<p>Random example of current culture plucked from the air: I thought Eagle vs Shark was quite New Sincerity in it&#8217;s uncomplicated exuberance. Much more so than Napoleon Dynamite perhaps, which seems to have some of the same qualities but was originally spoiled for me by being massively marketed by MTV. I suppose that shouldn&#8217;t matter, but regardless of promotion or artistic intent there&#8217;s still some soul in Eagle vs Shark that&#8217;s lacking in Napoleon Dynamite.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m struggling to know at what level I&#8217;m appreciating most things, and I&#8217;m sure I will continue to. My plan is not to overanalze anything though, and just enjoy things for what they are. If the New Sincerity cuts through the old irony, it can&#8217;t be a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some wondering about this kind of thing a while ago - when an ironic appreciation of something (let&#039;s say 40s big band music) comes full circle on itself, and suddenly you find that you really like it *in and of itself*, and not for the more performative layered posture of your original &#039;ironic&#039; stance. I always thought of it as &#039;hardcore irony&#039;, but i think i prefer the &#039;returning  to grassroots&#039; feel of new sincerity.

I think it may be a function of getting &#039;tired&#039; of reprocessing stuff, of the work needed to parse the layers in to that seen-it-all mode - tiresome cognitive work. It links in to that funny thing of giving only positive comments in places like flickr too - so much easier just to go &#039;this is awesome&#039; than actually form an opinion.

Incidentally - New Sincerity is everywhere in adverts at the moment - look at the orange ads for gigs etc, and pretty much anything Fallon does. The Dairy Milk gorilla is another good one.

I wonder how much of it will be subsumed again by advertising, necessitating another adoption of a contrary position? And what might be the shape of the anti-new-sincerity?

Look to the teens, I guess. It&#039;ll appear there first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some wondering about this kind of thing a while ago &#8211; when an ironic appreciation of something (let&#8217;s say 40s big band music) comes full circle on itself, and suddenly you find that you really like it *in and of itself*, and not for the more performative layered posture of your original &#8216;ironic&#8217; stance. I always thought of it as &#8216;hardcore irony&#8217;, but i think i prefer the &#8216;returning  to grassroots&#8217; feel of new sincerity.</p>
<p>I think it may be a function of getting &#8216;tired&#8217; of reprocessing stuff, of the work needed to parse the layers in to that seen-it-all mode &#8211; tiresome cognitive work. It links in to that funny thing of giving only positive comments in places like flickr too &#8211; so much easier just to go &#8216;this is awesome&#8217; than actually form an opinion.</p>
<p>Incidentally &#8211; New Sincerity is everywhere in adverts at the moment &#8211; look at the orange ads for gigs etc, and pretty much anything Fallon does. The Dairy Milk gorilla is another good one.</p>
<p>I wonder how much of it will be subsumed again by advertising, necessitating another adoption of a contrary position? And what might be the shape of the anti-new-sincerity?</p>
<p>Look to the teens, I guess. It&#8217;ll appear there first.</p>
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