Augmented Reality Panel – Video and Links

David Orban recorded our panel, and has put the video online.

Here’s a slideshare of the accompanying videos and images we used to illustrate the panel.

And finally, from the live blog that David was maintaining, here are the notes taken and shared during the panel…

11:02 David Orban – I am now sitting on the podium with Roo on the Augmented Reality panel:
– Marc Goodman, Director, Alcatel-Lucent
– Eric Rice, Producer, Slackstreet Studios
– Blair MacIntyre, Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab, Georgia Institute of Technology
– David Orban, Founder & Chief Evangelist, WideTag, Inc.
– Andrew (Roo) Reynolds, Portfolio Executive for Social Media, BBC Vision (moderator)
11:03 David Orban – People are still streaming in, as certainly the parallel sessions are putting a strain on everybody’s decision centers. They are nice, and complementary, but the choice is still sometimes not easy.
11:05 David Orban – We are introducing ourselves with 25 seconds each. Laughter as Marc from Alcatel starts saying “I was born in Illinois at a very young age…”
11:08 David Orban – Starting from the Wikipedia page we talk about how each of us defines Augmented Reality. Blair says that it is where you are strictly registering media with the world. Eric says “There is so much data around us we just don’t see it.”
11:11 David Orban – Blair is describing the ‘magic lense’ and ‘magic mirror’ terminologies as Roo is showing short YT clips to illustrate the background of the concepts. The flow is pretty good and fresh. I hope that the audience is also feeling like this.
11:18 David Orban – Eric says that the best application of AR is gaming today.
11:23 David Orban – I described the difference between having the data (important), and visualizing the data (possible only after the first). And segwayed into the description of semantic understanding in synthetic worlds, folksonomies, and the necessity of relying on sensor networks to collect data that people won’t. The more autonomous the better. Blair agreed.
11:23 [Comment From Grace McDunnough] David, can you share the YT links? Thanks :)
11:25 David Orban – Grace, I will ask Roo for them on the fly. Now he is speaking, and asking us the potential of technologies to overcome the social isolation of visualization technologies.
11:26 [Comment From Mal Burns] oh – good question
11:26 David Orban – The panel is describing how looking at our phones all the time is normal, and how this is going to impact our social behavior more and more.
11:27 David Orban – YouTube link:
11:31 David Orban – I remarked that it will be all right, because as a society we will work out what makes sense, and what not, as we originally did with using mobile phones in restaurants, etc.
11:31 [Comment From Roo] More links: and
11:31 David Orban – Thanks, Roo, for helping out here…
11:33 David Orban – Marc from Alcatel is describing a mixed reality application on a mobile phone.
11:33 David Orban – Roo is asking about interoperability and “is this as messy as in Virtual Worlds?”
11:34 David Orban – Blair says that you have to deal with these issues, and develop standards. There was a proposal of ARML, combine geotagging with semantics.
11:36 Roo – Pessimism from Eric on interoperability. “We will not learn” from our mistakes elsewhere
11:37 Roo – David comparing email w/ X400 and getting philosophical. “It’s a mistake to put reality on a pedestal”.
11:38 Roo – David: info should flow, and it should, but can only do so if interop. is possible.
11:38 Roo – David: Culture, Rights and Laws all need to be considered
11:40 Roo – Halting State by S
11:41 David Orban – Postsingular by Rudy Rucker. Freely available on
11:42 Roo – Halting State (Charles Stross)
11:43 Roo – Plus of course, Sterling and Spime
11:45 David Orban – Halting State url:
Vernor Vinge: Rainbows End
11:45 David Orban – Quote from Postsingular:
“Craigor was a kind of fisherman as well; that is, he earned money by trapping iridescent Pharaoh cuttlefish, an invasive species native to the Mergui Archipelago of Burma and now flourishing in the climate-heated waters of the San Francisco Bay. The chunky three-kilogram cuttlefish brought in a good price apiece from AmphiVision, Inc., a San Francisco company that used organic rhodopsin from cuttlefish chromatophores to dope the special video-displaying contact lenses known as web-eyes. All the digirati were wearing webeyes to overlay heads-up computer displays upon their visual fields. Webeyes also acted as cameras; you could transmit whatever you saw. Along with earbud speakers, throat mikes, and motion sensors, the webeyes were making cyberspace into an integral part of the natural world.”
11:46 David Orban – Blair: “I like to think of Second Life like hypertext systems were before HTML and the web”
11:47 David Orban – Eric adds: “We also need metadata for experiences.”
11:49 Roo – Question from Tish re Internet of Things: social purpose. Instrumentation of reality (Cory Doctorow), implications on the public space.
11:49 David Orban – Tish Shute of Ugotrade is asking relative to Bruce Sterling’s remark that this technology is also for social good. The instrumentation of reality instead of surveillance. We need to understand what public space is.
11:51 Roo – David says: it’s important. Web was not properly planned. OpenSpime working with EFF to find best practice. Yet some people think of Spime as Slime. Being more aware of our environment can be a very good thing
11:52 Roo – Eric: “totalitarianism is also user generated now”.
11:54 David Orban – Blair is describing how buildings can become intelligent without having full details, and achieve results nonetheless.
11:55 David Orban – Blair: “If it is centralized, who can decide who puts up an AR sign in front of the Staples center”.
11:57 Roo – Question: How will AR be picked up by commercial space?
11:59 David Orban – Collaboration, telework, modeling, are some of the application areas that are being mentioned.
12:28 David Orban – The panel ended. A lot of questions from the people coming up to the podium.

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