epredator Potato: please take a seat
epredator Potato: and we can get tanking
epredator Potato: is everyone ok to have this chat logged?
epredator Potato: ok everything we have a chat please do.
epredator Potato: ok we would like to do intros as much as you care to show and tell
epredator Potato: ok we still have some guests that are on teh way
epredator Potato: but lets start
epredator Potato: I am epredator potato
epredator Potato: IBm metvaerse evangelist
epredator Potato: and owner of this IQ island
epredator Potato: we can go clockwise
Mauritius Newall: I am a journalist from germany
Marton Steins: i am marton galambos, hungarian journalist, trade magazine, comm/mark
Marton Steins: not clockwise, sorry
BethMcBeth Innis: hi, im journalist in an it magazine from portugal
Znetlady Isbell: ZNetLady - new media strategists and consultant
Jan Cramer: I'm a writer for Dutch trade magazine Emerce
McCormavitch Isachenko: My first life name is andy. I'm a reporter for new media age magazine. A Scot in London.
Bianca Giotto: bianca, journalist from vienna, e-media
epredator Potato: track and willow we are doing intros
Tracky Brickworks: I'm Matt McMahon in First Life, work in media relations at IBM
Adam Reuters: I'm adam reuters, aka adam pasick, reuters bureau chief in SL
Ada Alfa: I'm Holly Stewart in first life, IT architect in IBM
Seth Witte: Seth Witte
epredator Potato: :-)
Seth Witte: IBM Global Director, 3D Internet
Mauritius Newall: First wish for an improvemnet: Each time somebody tzpes spomething the colour of the name changes...
Yossarian Seattle: that would be nice
Oskar Wade: I'm Karolina Shaw and I'm IBM's accopunt manager at Text 100
Razvan Ewry: I'm Razvan Serbu romanian journalist at Bucharest Business Week
Seth Witte: Our wish list is long
Ezach Epin: I'm a journalist at Dagens it, Norway, business to business on ICT
epredator Potato: well that wishlist will move nicely onto the dicussion
epredator Potato: great we are all done? anyone else want to intro?
Mauritius Newall: Is there a regular number of chatters collecting in such a group. I think 20 people or more is bit hard to follow...
Marton Steins: one question: istn 9000 people online qiute a low number?
epredator Potato: the scaling of the virtual world is very much something we need to see worked on
epredator Potato: so a question to the group how many people online in one space woudl you expect to see?
epredator Potato: bearing in mind we have 40 here in 2 groups
Mauritius Newall: Ten characters would be fine so I can memorize better...
Marton Steins: do u think it is diff in the virtual world than in the real?
McCormavitch Isachenko: I think a meeting this large is fairly rare.
BethMcBeth Innis: sre bur how can these type of virtual meetings change the work flow?
epredator Potato: I was asking not for just this event but in general
Marton Steins: same as in the real world i guess
epredator Potato: yes :-) a meeting of this size is.
Ezach Epin: The normal number of a wor group is perhaps 8-12 depending on the setting.
Seth Witte: depends on the requirements or activities
epredator Potato: when you consider a large media event though? woudl you expect large crowds?
Razvan Ewry: lot, for I can choose my online friens
Mauritius Newall: Imagine a big townhall meeting and at the end there are so manz arguments that a clear view is blurred...
McCormavitch Isachenko: only for rare occassions such as bbc gigs - maybe up to 10,000?
epredator Potato: I think we maybe need to label the types of events. Adams one yesterdsay for instance
epredator Potato: an interview to be watched with occasional questions
epredator Potato: is different from a town hall where everyone talks at once?
Mauritius Newall: Another question: What happens if there a Third Life or Fourth Life Virtual World....
Razvan Ewry: not very much
BethMcBeth Innis: i guess this makes sense for gathering people all around the world at the same time, same place?
epredator Potato: aha maritius
Znetlady Isbell: IF you consider entertainment - scale to large numbers is vital
Tracky Brickworks: newman is joining us
Adam Reuters: we thought of the nintendo event yesterday as a sort of town hall. as it was the first one it was a bit of a work in progress
Tracky Brickworks: newman, take my seat
McCormavitch Isachenko: Adam, how many people are in Reuters SL bureau at any one time?
epredator Potato: it worked well with a mix of voice for you and the interviewee
Adam Reuters: it's actually just me!
Adam Reuters: or you mean visitors?
McCormavitch Isachenko: visitors
epredator Potato: welcome newman
Razvan Ewry: Can you create an SL in SL?
Adam Reuters: max these days, except for events like yesterday, is probably around 20
Yossarian Seattle: There are games that people have built inside SL
epredator Potato: we have had some questions pop up that are related
epredator Potato: about SL in SL and 3rd world and 4th world
McCormavitch Isachenko: that isn't very many. do you have a year-end/2007 target?
Adam Reuters: but we're not really that concerned with having lots of people on our sim. we give out news HUDs so people can take reuters content with them whereever they go in SL
Mauritius Newall: I want a motorcycle game like in TRON....
Adam Reuters: does anyone want/need a news HUD?
McCormavitch Isachenko: yes please
Marton Steins: me too
Marton Steins: thnx
epredator Potato: the concepts that there may be more than one virtual world or metaverse is one that we are thnking about a lot
epredator Potato: the need to move from place to place
epredator Potato: across technology platforms
epredator Potato: is a challenge for this new industry
epredator Potato: anyone have a perpective of SL versus lots of competing metaverses?
Seth Witte: it's commerce model
McCormavitch Isachenko: i've never seen such mass market uptake of SL so quickly with any other. Or amI being shortsighted?
Seth Witte: they have utilized some key things
Razvan Ewry: for me this meeting is like in normal chat
McCormavitch Isachenko: of any virtual world i mean
Seth Witte: common currency common language
Mauritius Newall: If more and more big companys like IBM or Nissan go into SL the others would loose...
Yossarian Seattle: community as with all these things is a big part
Razvan Ewry: I'm focusing onli on leters, not on the caracters
Mauritius Newall: or would have to offer something special or a theme that is unique...
epredator Potato: would people move if the grpahics and perfomance where better and they coudl take their invetsment in time and omeny with them?
epredator Potato: money that is
McCormavitch Isachenko: of course
Znetlady Isbell: Yes
McCormavitch Isachenko: is that something ibm is working on?!
Znetlady Isbell: But the distinctions are in the social networks versus the "structured outcomes" types of MMOG
epredator Potato: IBM is interested in virtusal worlds and where they can go
Znetlady Isbell: as to how attraative it is to move among them
Errol Mysterio: there's a prototyper now that prints it's own parts
Errol Mysterio: size of a fridge
Mauritius Newall: But I guess a big question is Trust. Will people trust IBM that thez more that a service user pay for...
epredator Potato: trust is an issue
epredator Potato: we are already putting a great deal of trust in Linden Labs to keep Sl going?
Errol Mysterio: Mrs Jones, her name was
Mauritius Newall: And if you dont do it now a big chance to kickstart virtual world would get lost...
McCormavitch Isachenko: they have an interest though. they make money from letting the land.
BethMcBeth Innis: security is the issue. how can IBM put money in some tech platform you dont control?
epredator Potato: I am wondering if we need to see a model more like the web
Znetlady Isbell: we do!
epredator Potato: where it is possible to run your own servers
epredator Potato: on standards based interactions
McCormavitch Isachenko: is that achievable?
Razvan Ewry: there can be imagine new business opportunities
Znetlady Isbell: It is the only way businesses will be able to make such an investment for the enterprise
epredator Potato: so shoudl Linden be an open platform? or shoudl linden be able to talk to others ?
McCormavitch Isachenko: does LL hold all the cards then?
Razvan Ewry: new technologies alow avatars to talk?
Mauritius Newall: I guess the general consumer will look at SL as an euivalent to window-shopping...
epredator Potato: yes not all the cards, but the mindshare
McCormavitch Isachenko: mindshare? what do you mean?
epredator Potato: well we ar ein here, talking SL, using SL writing about SL
Jan Cramer: what is a potential challenger?
epredator Potato: mainstream press and marketing are looking at it
BethMcBeth Innis: is SL at risk of becoming a big virtual shopping mall?
epredator Potato: but its social and not just technical
epredator Potato: sl could become a big shoppping mall
McCormavitch Isachenko: they have customers, yes. you are using their product. why should they open source it. Is it in their interesets?
epredator Potato: but the web is not
epredator Potato: and it has shops
Razvan Ewry: Linden for be sucessful must to be on open platform
epredator Potato: I think Linden want to make a world change and make this accessiblt to all.
Marton Steins: people can escape if they want here. the amount of land is not limited
epredator Potato: they often talk about open sourcing the client
Mauritius Newall: Because companys are often only used to use such a tool quite conventional...and that is not very creative...
McCormavitch Isachenko: me too. but they still need some control to continue making money?
Jan Cramer: is IBM already talking to Microsoft and others to create some platform?
Razvan Ewry: why not?
epredator Potato: We are looking at everything
epredator Potato: as far as I know
Jan Cramer: ofcourse
Mauritius Newall: Microsoft is used to get into everything hip quite late...
Marton Steins: so, isnt 9000 a low number? for onliners?
epredator Potato: yes 9000 is low
Razvan Ewry: yes, it is
epredator Potato: in normal web terms
Marton Steins: whats the buzz about. (sorry)
Adam Reuters: the low peak concurrency number, compared to the HUGE number of registered users, is one of the mysteries of SL
epredator Potato: but in 1998 we only had 100,000 hits a minute on wimbledon.org
epredator Potato: as a web site
epredator Potato: now its millions
Yossarian Seattle: the peak number of current users has been around 16000 so far
McCormavitch Isachenko: it's not a mystery. MySpace is the exact same
epredator Potato: not that we count hits the same
epredator Potato: SL has only really been groing for the past 9 months
Yossarian Seattle: but unique daily logins has been quoted recently at 75,000
epredator Potato: growing
Marton Steins: so u mean it has a great potential.
epredator Potato: the web has had 10 years
Adam Reuters: what do you guys think about the estimates on regular SL users -- is it 150,000 (if half the user base logs in each day) ? or 600,000?
Adam Reuters: which is the number of people who have signed in the last 60 days
Marton Steins: i think what sl needs is voice comm.
epredator Potato: I think the numbers are strange
Adam Reuters: how would voice comm work in a meeting like this?
epredator Potato: but more than 0
Seth Witte: They are working on voice
McCormavitch Isachenko: 150m profiles on myspace but much less are active. profiles/avatar numbers is not an accurate measurement currency
epredator Potato: they are working on voide as Text to speech and sppeech to text
epredator Potato: as adam says
Marton Steins: just as yout talk on a conf. talk
epredator Potato: voice will not work en masse
Razvan Ewry: who is really active in SL, how many
epredator Potato: voice on its own seems to break the avatar model
Marton Steins: thats right
epredator Potato: like using a mobile whilst driving
Znetlady Isbell: My estimate is less than 200K
McCormavitch Isachenko: SL is very niche still imo. more hype than substance. any thoughts?
Marton Steins: agree
epredator Potato: hype, there certainly is
Marton Steins: with a great potential
Znetlady Isbell: I disagree. Lots of hype, but if you look at the potential, it's huge.
epredator Potato: but.... the convergence of the ideas and teh technology and the social aspects points the way
BethMcBeth Innis: SL is maninly porn and games - yet at least
epredator Potato: websites were hype
BethMcBeth Innis: how do u change that?
epredator Potato: SL is the web
epredator Potato: it has everything on it
epredator Potato: the slef organization/wiki approach
McCormavitch Isachenko: yes w/sites were hypoed/overhyped and then the bottom fell out of the market. it's important to recognise that SL IS niche but has potentila
BethMcBeth Innis: but can you make credible?
epredator Potato: means that you dont have to consume content you dont want to
Znetlady Isbell: Of course it is/can be credible
Razvan Ewry: How can be mesured the influence of an advertising in SL?
Razvan Ewry: to be iteresting for companies
Yossarian Seattle: that is a very real problem for compaines in real life
Yossarian Seattle: it is possibly easier to measure it in here
epredator Potato: atleast here you can tell if someone walks past your advert
epredator Potato: not just click throghts on banner ads
Yossarian Seattle: you can also if you get agreement follow what people are talking about
Razvan Ewry: ok, make sense
Znetlady Isbell: in 3D environments new measurements will be needed
Yossarian Seattle: so there is the potential to track discussion about products
McCormavitch Isachenko: there is no ROI on advertising in SL yet - is there?
epredator Potato: the excamp leof the toyoata scion is relevant here
epredator Potato: they have put the car into SL
epredator Potato: to be customized
epredator Potato: get brand affinity
Razvan Ewry: advertising come with the money
epredator Potato: then the most popular custom bits
epredator Potato: become after market bits
epredator Potato: in teh real world
Znetlady Isbell: most rol on advertising is via the offline ads now
epredator Potato: advertizing and product development mixed
Mauritius Newall: Popular places get rated by the number of their visitors...so more ads appear threre
BethMcBeth Innis: first you have to identify who are the users of SL. do u know already?
epredator Potato: the question of who you are advertizing too is an interesting one
BethMcBeth Innis: young, old, female, male...? what?
Znetlady Isbell: Beth, if identity is permeable you won't know what rl demos are
Razvan Ewry: or make sense to create needs for extra money in SL?
epredator Potato: you are appealing in my case to my digital persona
epredator Potato: and I am happy to share my real name
Znetlady Isbell: you can based this environment on rl models
epredator Potato: so just by looking at me and what i do you can sell me things
epredator Potato: just as in rela life
epredator Potato: ?
Mauritius Newall: Direct Avatar-Sponsoring would be a one idea...wear a shirt or hat by a certain designer, company and you get Linden/Dolars by walking around in crowded places...
Marton Steins: i like that
epredator Potato: tracky is wearing his reeboks :-)
Marton Steins: sell your forhead kind of stuff
McCormavitch Isachenko: what will be the first real life product to sell millions through ads on SL?
epredator Potato: it is very doable to track how long someone wears things
Mauritius Newall: Or other parts of your body..:)
Yossarian Seattle: and also where they go when they wear them
epredator Potato: I think th efirst product will be one that works with the rela world too
Yossarian Seattle: and who else walks within viewing distance
Znetlady Isbell: and how many avatras recieve impressions?
McCormavitch Isachenko: like what epred?
Razvan Ewry: you as avatar have other needs or the same like in Real world?
epredator Potato: good questions, at this point I need to go and get rich :-)
epredator Potato: but telecoms and social tools
McCormavitch Isachenko: can i come with you?
epredator Potato: that keep you connected to other places and people
epredator Potato: not just in SL
Yossarian Seattle: you're avatar doesnt need food but as it is a manifestation of yourself it makes people want to personalise it
Yossarian Seattle: and be individual
epredator Potato: correct. take this pred costume. am I a sci fi fan?
epredator Potato: probably yes
epredator Potato: visual cue
McCormavitch Isachenko: i like your costume
Mauritius Newall: As an Avatar my visual performance is quite important...and my property or a certain service only I can offer...quite similar like in our western world...
Seth Witte: I must leave I apologize
epredator Potato: ok thansk seth
Yossarian Seattle: see you later Seth
Seth Witte: we are hoping to have open standards
McCormavitch Isachenko: will there ever be a decent version of SL on mobile?
epredator Potato: so quick poll
Razvan Ewry: If you have a company you will invest in SL marketing? Why?
McCormavitch Isachenko: poll: Personally, no. but it doesn't have to be so.
Marton Steins: i would use it for market research and tests
Marton Steins: and viral mrktg
Jan Cramer: yep, strating a buzz
epredator Potato: viral certainly works well
Mauritius Newall: I guess SL would be perfect for groups like the Weight Watchers...
Znetlady Isbell: Poll: yes -for research, social networking potential, new content categories
Razvan Ewry: for 200.000 unknown people?
epredator Potato: if there was a change to tie real profile with login?
Marton Steins: well its 9000 right now...
Yossarian Seattle: but 200,000 people who can spend from their bank account on a one button click payment
epredator Potato: which is not technically hard
Marton Steins: good argument
epredator Potato: yes yoss
Razvan Ewry: if they are childrens, with no money?
epredator Potato: Timeless made a fortune selling this multigadget
Jan Cramer: create machinima, put it on youtube: lots of reach
Yossarian Seattle: you must be 18 currently to come in here
epredator Potato: at one time 2/3 of the population bought it
Marton Steins: there is a separete teen sl
epredator Potato: so we have a platform that has currency
epredator Potato: people
epredator Potato: and content
McCormavitch Isachenko: (a few) people
epredator Potato: yes a few :-)
epredator Potato: but a growing 'few'
Mauritius Newall: The Wii has also the Mii-Channel which gives you the chancre to create an avatar...
epredator Potato: yes teh mii on teh wii to allow customization gives people affinity
epredator Potato: every 'game' has customization options
Adam Reuters: does anyone have a wii yet?
epredator Potato: nope :-(
epredator Potato: uk date dec 8th
Willow Woodward: my nephew does
Willow Woodward: they played it all thanksgiving day
epredator Potato: did you not a get one for free from yesterday adam?
McCormavitch Isachenko: epred: what was your point about currency content people?
Mauritius Newall: And there are already various machinima-movies with Mii-Characters...so the idea worked on the level of creativity...
Posey Plympton: Should be getting mine any day now!
epredator Potato: well currency content and people is the web business model
McCormavitch Isachenko: surely war is the next stage of evolution?
epredator Potato: thats for the combat sims
Znetlady Isbell: What about web sites like 3B that takes Flickr and MySpace pages...
Znetlady Isbell: and turns them into 3D environments?
epredator Potato: well these are examples of the need to move
epredator Potato: data from one place to another
Znetlady Isbell: You can also create avatars and meet with friends
Znetlady Isbell: within your own content
epredator Potato: correct
Znetlady Isbell: or others'
epredator Potato: so we can expect more of these to rise
epredator Potato: games that are not games
epredator Potato: becuase there is a demand
epredator Potato: from a population brought up on Playstation
Razvan Ewry: can be stolen virtual things in SL?
epredator Potato: and myspace
epredator Potato: :-)
Znetlady Isbell: Ultimately it is about socializing
epredator Potato: SL is digital conten
epredator Potato: there are some protections
Znetlady Isbell: Yes the game babies as I call them will have
Znetlady Isbell: a huge influence
BethMcBeth Innis: if big business comes to SL wont people run away from it like in real world?
epredator Potato: but like all digital content digital rights management is an issue
Razvan Ewry: like avatars, hidden identities?
Marton Steins: but there will be space where to run to
Znetlady Isbell: If they apply the rll models, Beth, yes
McCormavitch Isachenko: no. if the content is engaging enough then they will be welcomed by most.
epredator Potato: some people will hide
Mauritius Newall: Its already quite common that tv and cinema loose their audience to the net...and SL could be a new daily soap-opera with you as a star...
epredator Potato: but, I have met more real life people becuase of SL
epredator Potato: take this room for instance here in bedfont
epredator Potato: and my IBM collegues
Razvan Ewry: a hacker can distroy your island?
epredator Potato: well lets hope not. we have secuiryt in place
Mauritius Newall: So special predators hunt hackers?
epredator Potato: yes
Jan Cramer: sounds like a nice game
epredator Potato: we work with a group called the alliance navy
epredator Potato: they are white hat's
epredator Potato: the same as we have people in regular web
epredator Potato: protecting through ethical hacking
epredator Potato: but..... we dont have control of the machines and servers
McCormavitch Isachenko: do you employ them directly at IBM?
epredator Potato: unlike the web
McCormavitch Isachenko: or is it a LL iniativew
Razvan Ewry: what is ethical correct?
epredator Potato: IBM employs white hats
Mauritius Newall: Is there already a regular concert-venue in SL? Onbbe with a timetable of DJs and Bands?
McCormavitch Isachenko: how many white hats?
epredator Potato: well I dont know
Adam Reuters: sorry guys i have to log off
epredator Potato: thanks adam
epredator Potato: for coming
Znetlady Isbell: bye Adam
epredator Potato: this has been a godo experiement
epredator Potato: godo
epredator Potato: good !
epredator Potato: there are regular music venues
McCormavitch Isachenko: has it worked? can we do a poll on that?
epredator Potato: an artist called froggy lipman is one to look out for
epredator Potato: ok :-)
McCormavitch Isachenko: worthwhile even?
Marton Steins: it would make real sense if everyone were at diff locations
Marton Steins: would say that more fun than simple chat.
epredator Potato: we have people who are not in teh room
Marton Steins: i know
McCormavitch Isachenko: if it is 100% yes you can send out a press release tomorrow!!
epredator Potato: :-)
Yossarian Seattle: lol
epredator Potato: if its not its still relevant
epredator Potato: we dont know these things without experiencing them
epredator Potato: which is the challenge of the past 9 months
Marton Steins: thats right
epredator Potato: usually we are working out how a technmology works faster or better
epredator Potato: or how to stitch applications together
epredator Potato: here we need to epxlore how to communicate effectively
epredator Potato: what the community is up to
epredator Potato: how to blend in not just turn up and be all corporate
Seth Witte: Nation Building right Epred
Mauritius Newall: United States of IBM...
McCormavitch Isachenko: people will oust you if you try to blend in but are actually corporate
Razvan Ewry: how can you sell SL to the army?
McCormavitch Isachenko: you have to be corporate in a non-offensive way
McCormavitch Isachenko: if that's poss
Seth Witte: well more than that
epredator Potato: yes, agreed
epredator Potato: but we shoudl be ablel to add
epredator Potato: not absorb
Seth Witte: because we are humans outside of work
Seth Witte: and individuals have so much more influence these days
Seth Witte: average individuals
Znetlady Isbell: It's sociology, not technology :-)
epredator Potato: enterprise free not just free enterprise :-)
Seth Witte: right Znet
epredator Potato: yes putting teh people back in teh technology
Razvan Ewry: it's money
epredator Potato: our mantra
Seth Witte: with technology wrapped around it
Znetlady Isbell: Technology enabled
McCormavitch Isachenko: seth: what are the long term aims of IBM being in SL?
Seth Witte: I get alot more satisfaction from my relationships and actually
Seth Witte: can take it to the level above "just money"
Seth Witte: but value add to work and life
Seth Witte: we are moving into 3D internet
Seth Witte: this is the equivalent of intraworld like intranets of early web days
Znetlady Isbell: I agree, Seth
Marton Steins: good to hear
epredator Potato: /clap
Znetlady Isbell: It is exactly like the early days of the web
Marton Steins: would be great
Seth Witte: and they all have value
epredator Potato: /clap
Haydern Otsuzum: How the web evolves is pretty much down to the non-corporate user though.
Seth Witte: it would be a mistake to think that only one way is the right way
McCormavitch Isachenko: how do you jeasure vale?
McCormavitch Isachenko: measure
Seth Witte: well,
Seth Witte: there is intangible and tangible
McCormavitch Isachenko: PR?
Seth Witte: if you think about business ecosystems
McCormavitch Isachenko: I'm being cynical
Seth Witte: than you know intagible means longer sustainability
Seth Witte: yes but it is a cynical world
Znetlady Isbell: and there are strategic values and tactical values too
Seth Witte: yes
Seth Witte: and anyone individual or company can see where they are in the ecosystem
Seth Witte: by how they perform their operational roles
Seth Witte: So we are keystones in this system
epredator Potato: well said seth :-)
Haydern Otsuzum: Whi is a keystone?
Seth Witte: We want all the intraworlds to be successful
Haydern Otsuzum: who?
Seth Witte: they will help with the future of 3D internet
Haydern Otsuzum: who is a keystone of the system?
Seth Witte: a Keystone is the fundamental part of an ecosystem that promotes innovation and sustainability
McCormavitch Isachenko: is it a fair comparison to say companies are investing in SL now as they did in the first way of the web ie. no traditional roi model?
Seth Witte: IBM is working at being a keystone in 3D internet
McCormavitch Isachenko: willl there be a crash?
Haydern Otsuzum: Yes but who are you saying will be the keystone?
Haydern Otsuzum: OK
Seth Witte: there is usually more than one
Seth Witte: keystone
Znetlady Isbell: and the user is also a keystone
Znetlady Isbell: they are often the innovators too
Haydern Otsuzum: You will find that the average user is leading these things and your influencer role might be quite small
Seth Witte: they certainly can be
epredator Potato: will there be a crash, there may be.
Seth Witte: and a collection of users can operate as dominant or keystone
epredator Potato: but the web had some crashes and is now fundamental to all business
epredator Potato: and social
Seth Witte: Ajax and open source are good examples of Keystone
epredator Potato: interactions
Seth Witte: from a collection of individuals
Mauritius Newall: I think the users will also learn a lot from mistakes people or copanys do in SL
Seth Witte: I agree
epredator Potato: correct :-)
McCormavitch Isachenko: yes. pc coimpanies crashed but the pc survived. web companies crashed but the web survived. can we avooid a virtual world crash?
Seth Witte: and will help define real requirements for all kinds of interaction and business
Seth Witte: the biggest difference I see is tte = time to execute
Seth Witte: network effect and social collaboration are really picking up the pace
Seth Witte: here
Razvan Ewry: the people are going into SL just as escape from real world?
Haydern Otsuzum: People are looking for opportunities to imrpove their lives and increase their incomes; it's a king of mass entrepreneurism that's driving things
epredator Potato: no not just escape
Seth Witte: I'm sure there are those
epredator Potato: augment
Seth Witte: just like the web
Marton Steins: and to interact...
Seth Witte: it is after all a world :)
Yossarian Seattle: do people watch TV to escape from the real world ?
Seth Witte: where you have all kinds of people
Posey Plympton: and read books
Yossarian Seattle: is it a just an alternative entertainment form ?
Seth Witte: for some
Mauritius Newall: The architecyt from the Matrix might save us from the crash...:)
Yossarian Seattle: a new media channel
Razvan Ewry: in the tv there are not so much involved
epredator Potato: ha :-) you win the prize for mentioning the matrix first
Yossarian Seattle: but with a massively strong social aspect
Seth Witte: but this is integrated into our social fabric
Seth Witte: duplex as I say
Yossarian Seattle: exactly
Seth Witte: where other media are simplex or one way
McCormavitch Isachenko: is there a second prize? matrix
Mauritius Newall: I feel so sorry...
Seth Witte: sorry for?
Yossarian Seattle: matrix references
Mauritius Newall: Havinmg to mention Matrix...again...
Yossarian Seattle: lol
Seth Witte: I loved theMatrix :)
epredator Potato: I ma goign to be broke
Seth Witte: yes
epredator Potato: the matrix brings up to a nice conclusion
Marton Steins: isnt sl integrate all diff media?
epredator Potato: yes is does, just like the matrix :-)
McCormavitch Isachenko: thanks epred and seth for answetring my ibm q's
Yossarian Seattle: it can be, then the media can provide the context for the discussion
McCormavitch Isachenko: v interesting
Posey Plympton: Apparently my Wii has arrived in RL so I may have to leave now!
Haydern Otsuzum: I think the problem for large corporates is that the media world is fragmenting so it's important to try to capture whatever new bits arise in places like this
epredator Potato: well thankyou for participating in the discussion
epredator Potato: and our freeform experiement
Mauritius Newall: Dont forget the holodeck....or the chessplay with Chewbacca in SW
Znetlady Isbell: But you have new media categories in virtual worlds too
McCormavitch Isachenko: i'm off to watch the matrix
epredator Potato: i have an invote to a holodeck opening tonight :-)
epredator Potato: first one is best (matrix)
Yossarian Seattle: the first one i hope
Mauritius Newall: I will come as Sherlock Holmes or Boba Fett...
Marton Steins: thanks everyone! was interesting in the end
Posey Plympton: the bits about the martrix were particularly helpful
Mauritius Newall: With a very crowded map of China!
Znetlady Isbell: Thanks for the invite and discussion!